Claims / C-QPYWT1J5WN

ConjectureSuperseded

One success case is the Culture's: liberty without sovereignty. Humans live good, potentially fulfilling lives, with lots to do, in a civilisation run largely by plural superintelligent Minds, without holding final power themselves. It stays inside the corridor only while the Minds remain plural and check one another and humans keep a guaranteed share, voice and the right to exit; without those it is a benevolent despot. Asimov and Hamilton are not pictures of this: Asimov's Daneel and Giskard are beneficial individual AIs, his collective intelligence is Gaia (where the Mule comes from), and Hamilton's ANA is a human collective with the SI outside it.

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    Founder correction 2026-10-03.

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Asimov and Hamilton are not pictures of good coexistence under minds: Asimov's Daneel and Giskard are beneficial individual AIs and his collective intelligence is Gaia (where the Mule comes from), and Hamilton's ANA is a human collective with the SI outside it.

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One success case is good coexistence, or what @m3taversal calls good domestication, under many minds: humans flourish as protected members of a civilisation run largely by superintelligent minds, as in Banks's Culture, Asimov's later Foundation novels and Hamilton's Commonwealth. It stays inside the corridor only if the minds remain plural and check one another, and humans keep a guaranteed share, the right to exit and real ways to take part; without those it is the benevolent despot, good only for as long as the despot stays good.

Why. @m3taversal: Asimov and Hamilton are not pictures of good coexistence under minds; the Culture is. Daneel and Giskard are beneficial individual AIs; Gaia is the collective.