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2020 · Vitalik Buterin's website · Source
“If a system gets taken over by a harmful coalition, the dissidents can come together and create an alternative version of the system, which has (mostly) the same rules except that it removes the power of the attacking coalition to control the system.”
“Forking is a powerful form of counter-coordination precisely because it introduces skin in the game.”
“That said, decision markets can only solve some problems; in particular, they cannot tell us what variables we should be optimizing for in the first place.”
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“In all of the above cases, we see a group of people coming together and cooperating with each other, but to the great detriment of some group that is outside the circle of coordination, and thus to the net detriment of the world as a whole.”
“It's not an individual defecting against the group, it's a group defecting against a broader group, often the world as a whole.”
“But if we look at "decentralization" as being the presence of barriers to harmful collusion, then the picture becomes quite scary, because it shows that those barriers are not nearly as strong as we thought.”
“The fact that a system is decentralized makes it easy for participants not participating in the collusion to make a fork that strips out the colluding attackers and continue the system from there.”
“Forking is very easy in an open-source software context; the main challenge in creating a successful fork is usually gathering the *legitimacy* (game-theoretically viewed as a form of "common knowledge") needed to get all those who disagree with the main coalition's direction to follow along with you.”
“Skin in the game, in this context, basically means any mechanism that holds individual contributors in a decision individually accountable for their contributions. If a group makes a bad decision, those who approved the decision must suffer more than those who attempted to dissent.”
“If a group makes a bad decision, those who approved the decision must suffer more than those who attempted to dissent.”
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