Claims / C-QZX3F4ETCT
Conjecture
Redundancy buys back trial and error. Ord is right that existential risks "require foresight rather than trial and error" for humanity taken as one unit. Diamond's method shows the fix: he could grade 81 Pacific islands because there were 81, and a collapse that "left everybody dead" on one island became data for every other society and for us. A civilisation of several independent units restores the learning loop for every risk that stays local to one unit: the failure is terminal for that unit and instructive for any other unit whose deciders can apply the lesson without losing power by it (C-V60Z148482: the Norse lived beside the Inuit for centuries and copied nothing; the Danes learned more in a few years). Medicine already runs on this. No patient gets two lives, and prevention works because cohorts of other bodies show the harm before it reaches yours. So a second world and a cohort study are the same instrument, at two scales. The limit is P8's own: a risk that travels between units (C-PJCM1GMKMQ) stays in Ord's foresight-only class.
Evidence 2 passages
groundsSource document
By relating output variables to input variables, I aim to tease out the influence of possible input variables on collapses. A rigorous, comprehensive, and quantitative application of this method was possible for the problem of deforestation-induced collapses on Pacific islands. Prehistoric Pacific peoples deforested their islands to varying degrees, ranging from only slight to complete deforestation, and with societal outcomes ranging from long-term persistence to complete collapses that left everybody dead.
groundsThe Precipice, Toby Ord
And they require foresight rather than trial and error. Since they allow no second chances, we need to build institutions to ensure that across our entire future we never once fall victim to such a catastrophe.
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