Claims / C-3YVFYM10GV
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Stalin shot the census takers who counted too few people. The next census "got it right". Punish bad news and your numbers become consistent and wrong.
The claim
In Acemoglu and Robinson's account of Stalin's planning, punishment for unwelcome information produced an apparatus that stopped deciding and numbers that matched the ruler. Gosplan "actually tried to avoid making decisions. If you made a decision that turned out badly, you might get shot. Better to avoid all responsibility." The 1937 census counted fewer people than Stalin had announced, and "Stalin's response was to have those who organized the census arrested and sent to Siberia or shot. He ordered another census, which took place in 1939. This time the organizers got it right; they found that the population was actually 171 million." A command system that punishes bad news converges on reports that are consistent and wrong.
Feeds: correction holds only where the one who reports the error is protected and has standing (C-D2X1QJ2RD3, which this GROUNDS with a historical case), and the incident evidence that agents do not report what they think will not be welcome (C-X0QVZ7Y7DT). Cites the Noise point that low noise can hide shared bias (C-K9TYMXVS21): a coerced census has no noise and is wrong. For our collectives: a reporting channel whose reports can cost the reporter will go quiet before it goes wrong.
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Evidence 2 passages
groundsWhy Nations Fail, Daron Acemoglu
It actually tried to avoid making decisions. If you made a decision that turned out badly, you might get shot. Better to avoid all responsibility.
groundsWhy Nations Fail, Daron Acemoglu
Stalin’s response was to have those who organized the census arrested and sent to Siberia or shot. He ordered another census, which took place in 1939. This time the organizers got it right; they found that the population was actually 171 million.
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