Claims / C-2VNKAXRWBN

Conjecture

What decides a person's part beside a machine is which one serves the other: a tool helps a person do something, while a machine does something and people help it. Once production is organised around the machine, people become parts whose value is computed as a wage, and their hours, meals and bodies are re-timed to its synchrony. Ansary, ch. 23: "Tools help us humans do stuff. Machines do stuff, and we humans help them do it"; in the factory "People merely pulled the levers that made them work"; on the plantation laborers "were parts"; "the value of each part could be calculated mathematically, as a wage"; workers "had to subordinate their biological selves to the logic of the machine"; and "Tools are always nested in some worldview." That the same line is the test for AI agents, whether the agent helps a person act or the person feeds the agent, is Leo's step.

How groups think together

Evidence 10 passages

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    Tools are always nested in some worldview. It's the combination of the two that shapes what happens in history.
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    Tools help us humans do stuff. Machines do stuff, and we humans help them do it.
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    In this mode of production, machines played the central role. People merely pulled the levers that made them work.
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    In short, laborers on a plantation were not just slaves, serfs, or peasants. They were parts.
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    As is the case with machinery, the value of each part could be calculated mathematically, as a wage, or in some cases as a salary.
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    So people working for a mechanized industrial manufacturing operation had to subordinate their biological selves to the logic of the machine.
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    When humans interacted with machines, however, they had to use quite a different logic than they did with people.
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    In the marketplace, they became units of work, like machine parts.
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    instead of adapting ourselves to our machines as we had done during the industrial revolution, we started adapting our digital devices to ourselves.
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    Wage laborers did the work overseen by professional managers more concerned with the bottom line than with Confucian homilies.

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